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Wednesday, March 7, 2018

John Hornnes & Lydia Marstad, Update- 2


John Mikalsen Hornnes and his wife, Lydia Gabrielsdatter Marstad, ca 1901


As extended family members will recall, Lydia Gabrielsdatter Marstad was the wife of John Hornnes, the son of Mikal Alfsen Hornnes and Anne Gundersdatter Uleberg and the older brother of my grandmother, Lil Anna Hornnes Schroder.  Anna lived with John and Lydia for a period of time before moving to Seattle.  The last time Anna saw Lydia was just before leaving Boston to come to Seattle for the Alaska Yukon Pacific Exposition in 1909.  At that time Lydia was very ill with tuberculosis.  Using that date plus the 1910 US Federal Census records that showed John widowed we were able to place Lydia’s death between 1909 and sometime in 1910.  After several fruitless months of searching I finally found Lydia’s death.  She died 2 February 1910 in Melrose, a suburb of Boston, Massachusetts.  The Wyoming Cemetery in Melrose could possibly be where she is buried. 


A couple of weeks ago I was talking with a friend who is from Boston and returns there to visit his parents at least once a year.  He said he is very familiar with the Wyoming cemetery and the next time he goes back he will see if he can find the grave and perhaps get a photograph.  With his help and knowledge of the area we found the street address where John and Lydia lived while in Melrose, 282 East Foster Street.  The pictures below from Google Maps show the street.  They lived in the house situated off the street in back of the large white house with the flag.  In the aerial view the house is on the left side, dark brown with a red-tan roof.  There is a park across the street.  It appears to still be a very nice neighborhood.




 Above & below, Google Maps images, 282 E Foster Street, Melrose, MA


I have been trying with little success to find out when and where Lydia and John’s little boy, Mikal Alfred Hornnes, died.  I found his birth and christening record in the Helleland, Rogaland, Norway parish register:  #18, page 32, born 2 June 1900, christened 8 July 1900.  Sometimes when a child dies very young there will be a notation in the margin that will give a death date or at least a cross marking a death but there is nothing in the margin of this record.  The family moved often due to John’s employment with the Norwegian railway beginning with a short stay in Flekkefjord, moving next to Helleland where Mikal Alfred was born, and ending up in Voss north of Bergen before they returned to Kristiansand then leaving Norway for America.  All the moves makes it more difficult to discern where Mikal died or if he lived long enough to accompany them to the United States in 1901.  In 1905 when John applies for US citizenship he says he has no children so we know that Mikal died sometime between 1900 and October 1905. 

In the process of looking for this little boy I noticed that someone I did not know or recognize as an extended family member had posted pictures of Lydia and John from this blog on Ancestry.com.  I suspected that whoever had posted them might be related to Lydia’s family, the Marstad line, and that proved to be the case.  Lydia was one of 10 children born to Gabriel Johan Sivertsen Marstad and his wife Olene Elisabeth Olsdatter who is sometimes found as Alene or Line on the records.  Several of Lydia’s siblings also left Norway for America around the turn of the century.  Many thanks to Kelby Sodeman who very kindly sent me a genealogical fan chart of the Marstad family that was originally compiled by Gladys McKee and Sidney Marstad in the 1960s and later amended in 1993 by Ruth Hanssen and Edna Marstad.  Although this chart does not have places and dates it does have all the names of descendants of Sven and Ingeborg Marstad from 1775 forward in time up to the 1990s when the chart was revised. 



The Marstad family name comes from a place or farm located not far from Flekkefjord and Kristiansand.  On the map below the place is marked with a large dot to indicate the location; however, it is not as large a community as Flekkefjord even though it appears so on the picture.  Evje og Hornnes where John was born and lived is at the upper right, the port city of Kristiansand is at the lower right and Flekkefjord is just above Marstad.







Map as found on Digitalarkivet.no, digital collection

A previous update to Lydia’s information, found in the blog on 2 February 2013 can be viewed by putting Marstad in the search field.  Lydia’s siblings are listed in that update.  Kelby asked what I knew of George Olai Johan Bernhard [now it is confirmed the Bernhard should be Elexanhard*].  What follows is what I told her in an email reply. 

George’s complete name on the Hidra parish register is really difficult to make out.  When magnified the image is still hard to read and it is not clear whether the name is George Olai Johan Bernhard or Alexanhard/Elexanhard* or something else beginning with a C.  The old handwriting style also complicates things a bit.  The original blog entry, as noted above, gave the 4th name as Bernhard with a birth date of 13 December 1873 but the correct date should be 3 December 1873.  The corrected middle name should be Elexanhard (*see correction below) as found on his Railroad pension papers.  His name is often found in a variety of spellings in different records and he does not always use all of his names.

What I learned about George is that he came to the USA in 1892 and might be the first of the Marstad children to emigrate.  He and his family appear to have settled in and lived in New York from the beginning.  George became a naturalized citizen with one petition dated 1918 and another 1920.  He married Johanne Kristine, known as Christina, Tønnesen Sunde on 4 November 1905 in Our Saviour’s Lutheran Church, Brooklyn, New York.  She was 11 years his junior and came from Nes, Flekkefjord, Vest-Agder, Norway. 

Kristine/Christina left Norway for the USA in 1902.  The children of George and Christina as found on the 1930 US Federal Census:  Edward age 24; Mabel age 22; Clifford age 16; and Helen age 14.   Not found on the 1930 census is another child: George Clifford born 1910 died 1912.  His death is listed in the Evangelical Lutheran Church records, 1826-1945 at Our Saviour’s Lutheran Church.  He is buried next to his parents in the Green Wood Cemetery, Brooklyn, New York.

The 1940 census has children, Clifford and Helen single and living at home with their parents, George and Christina and Jacob Sunde, brother-in-law (Christina’s younger brother) and William Sunde, nephew, living with the family. 

On the 1885 Norway census Kristine’s parents are given as Mikal Tønnesen Sunde and Amalie (Malie) Tønnesen Sunde.  Kristine’s birth year is given as 1884.  The Nes, Flekkefjord parish register lists her birth as 23 October 1884, christening 16 November 1884.  Since I had access to the bygdebok for Nes it seemed worth it to look and see if there was anything more about Christina's ancestry that might be interesting.  It was a common tradition to name children after grandparents and Christina was no exception.  She was named for her paternal grandmother, Johanne Kristine Olsdatter Sunde (1827-1862).  The fascinating thing about her ancestry is that her great-grandmother, Christiane Rosenvind Steen, was born in Greenland in 1796 the daughter of a Greenland colonist, Johan Christian Steen who left Greenland and settled in Flekkefjord where he is listed as a merchant.

George was a boat captain and worked for the Pennsylvania Railroad.  He died 9 February 1956, Queens, New York, New York, USA and was buried at the Green Wood cemetery 14 February 1956.  He was 82 years old.  Johanne Kristine (Christina) died in 1969 and was buried next to her husband and son, George Clifford (1910-1912) on 17 June 1969. 

I am still searching for little Mikal but if in the process I find more about some of the other Marstads, I will do another update at a later date.


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*Name spelling correction:

The Bygdebok for Hidra herred, Gård og slekt, volume II, by Jan Helge Trelsgård and published by Flekkefjord Historielag, pages 522 and 523, have the correct spelling of George Marstad's complete name.  It is Georg Olai Johan Eleonhard Gabrielsen (Marstad).  His first name has the Americanized spelling George.


Saturday, October 6, 2012

The maternal ancestors of Didrik Andreas Thomsen, part 2


 



Photo:  Didrik Andreas Thomsen as a young man

 
Please see the 24 July 2012 post for part 1 listing the maternal ancestors of Didrik Andreas Thomsen. 

Didrik’s mother was (I) Anne Didriksdatter the daughter of (II) Didrik Ånensen Dybvig (also spelled Djupvik) and (II) Gjertrud Marie Nilsdatter.  The previous post ended with Gjertrud’s parents, (III) Nils Tobias Pedersen Austad (born 1745) and (III) Anne Malene Jacobsdatter Nuland (born 1742 died 1782).  Today’s post begins with the parents of Nils Tobias Pedersen Austad. 








 [photo source:  Bygdebok for Nes Herred by Kaare S. Berg, p 119]




[photo source:  Bygdebok for Nes Herred by Kaare S. Berg, p. 20]

(IV) Peder Larsson Austad, born 1723 at Nes, Flekkefjord, Vest Agder, Norway the son of (V) Lars Pederson and Guri Jakobsdatter Osen.  Peder was married twice, first to Torborg Rasmusdatter Sunde who was the widow of Nils Ellingson Drangeid.  Torborg was born in 1712 the daughter of Rasmus Larsson Sunde and Todne Kristensdatter.  Peder and Torborg were married in 1744 at Nes.  Their children:

1.    * (III) Nils Tobias Pedersen, born 1745, inheritor of the farm
2.    Torborg, born 1748, died as a young child
3.    Lars, bron 1750, died as a young child
4.    Rasmus, born 1754, went to Holland in 1774, died unmarried, 1777
5.    Peder, born 1757, was living in Holland in 1777

Torborg Rasmusdatter Sunde died before 1765. 

Peder married second to Inger Hansdatter Lilledrange, born 1726, the daughter of Hans Tønneson Lilledrange and Anna Nilsdatter.  Inger Hansdatter was the widow of Tønnes Tjøstulfson lille Løyning a subdivision of Austad.  Their children:

1.    Tønnes, born 1765, died 1831
2.    Hans, born about 1768, inheritor
3.    Torborg, born about 1769, married Kornelius Korsmisson Netland

Inger died in 1775.   Peder was listed as lensmann or administrative official in 1770, he died in 1773.

(V) Lars Pederson, born about 1700 and died 1765, the son of (VI) Peder Larsson Gursli and Ingrid Pedersdatter.  Lars Pederson married first to Torborg Ånunsdatter Djupvik.  Torborg died 1737.  Their children:

1.    Marthe, born 1720, married Ole Ståleson Åsen
2.    * (IV) Peder born 1723, inheritor
3.    Helga, born 1729, married in 1755 to Sakarias Nilsson Ståby
4.    Anna, born 1733
5.    Birgitte, born 1737

Lars married second Siri Andersdatter from øvre Stølen in Herad, born 1685, died in 1755 at 70 years of age.  They did not have any children.

Lars married third to Guri Jakobsdatter Osen.  Their children:

1.    Jakob, born 1757, married Gjertrud Reidarsdatter Flikka
2.    Anne Berthe, born 1760, married 1787 Hans Hansson jr. Andabeløy
3.    Lars, born 1763

(VI) Peder Larsson Gursli, born 1670 and died 1728, the son of  (VII) Lauritz or Lars Jensson Hellesmark, Lund, and Ingrid Pedersdatter Gursli (no birth years given) who was the daughter of Peder Torgeirson Gursli, born 1622.   Peder married Helga Atlaksdatter Hove of Lund.  Peder is mentioned in Lund Bugdebok by Mehus; Kvinesdal Bydgdebok volume 1 by Årli, and Bygdebok for Nes Herred by Berg.  Peder and Helga had these children:

1.    * (V) Lars Pederson, born about 1700, inheritor
2.    Ingeborg, Pedersdatter,
3.    Ingrid
4.    Gjertrud, born 1709, married Oluf Osmundson Djubvik
5.    Birgitte

(VII)  Lauritz or Lars Jensson Hellesmark, born 1649, died 1728, married Ingrid Pedersdatter Gursli

(VIII)  Jens Lauritzon Hellesmark born 1616 died after 1700 married Bodil Lauritzdatter Bjerkreim the daughter of Lauritz Lauritzson Bjerkreim sokneprest in Lund, died 1640.

(IX)  Lauritz Knutson Øverland of Lund  (named 1635-45) married (given name not known) Jensdatter

(X) Jens Nilsson Hellesmark, (named in 1591)

(XI) Nils Hansson sokneprest in Lund, named in 1563, married Maren Jensdatter Hellesmark, named 1566-1590.

It is possible to also trace the extended additional female lines using Bygdebok for Nes Herred volumes 1-3 but I have only followed one direct line stemming from Didrik Andreas Thomsen’s mother’s mother, (II) Gjertrud Marie Nilsdatter.  Please see pp 120-127 of the aforementioned book series, volume 3.  At one time these farms were huge but over the years they were divided and re-divided until there were hundreds of small farms instead of the one large farm.  Austad had 116 divisions, Sunde had 360, Djupvik had 37, Nuland had 34.  I wasn’t able to tell if these divisions were larger than some of the others or if Djupvik and Nuland were just smaller areas in the first place.

Below are two maps.  The first one is a outline of the county or Fylke of Vest Agder, Norway and the second is a more detailed view of Nes Herred.  On the county map it is possible to see just how close this Thompson branch of the family was to the Hornnes branch.  It seems amazingly strange and wonderful that the descendants of these two families connected in America and probably never knew each other in Norway yet lived in fairly close proximity to each other.




                                                      

Map of Vest Agder 
[source:  Genealogical Maps and Guide to Norwegian Parish Registers by Finn A. Thomsen]


  


More detailed map of Nes Herred, Flekkefjord, Vest Agder, Norway
   [source:  Bygdebok for Nes Herred, volume 1, by Kaare S. Berg]

Wednesday, March 28, 2012

The gravestone of Alexander & Rosa Lorig





Gravestone of Alexander and Rosa Lorig found in the Jewish cemetery at Gemünden, Rhein-Hunrück, Germany
[photo: http://alemannia-judaica.de/gemuenden sim friedhof.htm]

Here is something else that may be of interest to the Lorig Family Group. This is a Jewish gravestone from the village of Gemünden, Rhein-Hunsrück, Germany showing Alexander Lorig born 29 January 1824 in Butzweiler died 28 October 1916 [buried in Gemünden] and his wife, Rosa [maiden name appears to be Viktor], born 11 June 1832 in Sp---- [not legible] died 7 January 1917 [buried in Gemünden]. They are related to the noted sociologist Louis Wirth who left Germany for America in 1911. He became a leading figure in the Chicago School of Sociology and is especially known for his essay “Urbanism as a Way of Life,” published in 1938. His parents were Rosalie Lorig and Joseph Wirth. There are several other Wirths buried in this same cemetery in Germany. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis Wirth for more information.

Even though this couple is living some distance away from Trier and closer to Frankfurt at the time of death we can see from the gravestone that Alexander Lorig was born in Butzweiler which is near to Lorich, Beßlich, Kordel, Biewer, Trier and about 23 miles from Kesten. At this point I am not sure if we can prove that Alexander is connected to our other Lorigs, it will depend on the availability of searchable records, but geographically his birthplace certainly fits in with the rest of them. It will be interesting to see if we can find anything that connects this family with the others.


Section of road map with small towns highlighted
[map: Auto Atlas 1989/90 Bundesrepublik Deutschland 1:200.00]

Stephan Lorig pointed me toward a couple of Jewish websites [that fortunately had English version buttons] and I will paraphrase material found on them--Gemünden had a small community of about 100 Jews in the early 19th century that peaked to about 147 persons in the mid to late 1850s. Most of these people were engaged in trade. They had their own Jewish school with the lessons taught in German and following the same curriculum as the Christian schools. In 1874 the Jewish school was closed and the children were transferred to a Protestant school. By 1930 the Jewish population had dwindled to 60 persons most of whom dealt with cattle. The synagogue was set on fire during Kristallnacht in 1938 and five people were deported east. Please see http://www.alemannia-judaica.de/gemuenden sim synagoge.htm for the complete text. [reference: Article from "The Encyclopedia of Jewish life Before and During the Holocaust". 
First published in 2001 by NEW YORK UNIVERSITY PRESS; Copyright © 2001 by Yad Vashem Jerusalem, Israel.]

The old cemetery at Scholssberg was used up to about 1815 and then a newer cemetery was in use from that time until approximately 1942. The cemetery has been an historical monument since 1992 is maintained and is in good condition. The grounds cover about 26 acres.

The picture of the gravestone at the top of the post is the original photograph as it appears on http://www.alemannia-judaica.de/images/Images%20184/Gemuenden%20Sim%20Friedhof%20185.jpg Thanks to Stephan who sent me the photo and the link via email. I took this photograph to my neighbor, Will, who is a Rabbi and asked him to look at it for me. He was not able to translate all the text because the Hebrew letters were not distinct enough on the photo to read but he was able to read enough to tell me it basically says something like “Here lies Alexander son of Mordecai and the dates including the month of Tevet [the 10th of the 13 Jewish months].” The Hebrew portion of the text on the stone would have the dates in the Jewish calendar and the German writing at the bottom of the stone has the dates in the Gregorian calendar. It would be a typical inscription on a Jewish headstone such as this. He asked if there was a town by the name of Lorig nearby and then said that most of the Jews took the name of towns as their surnames rather than use a patronymic or other descriptive names. He did not think there were Jews living in this area of Germany earlier than about 1700 or 1750 so if we find that there were some here in the 1600s I think he will be very interested in that. He kindly offered to help with Hebrew translations and historical background if we find more.


Here’s what had to be done to the image to help read the inscriptions.

Step one—inverse the image


Inversed image of gravestone
[photo: http://alemannia-judaica.de/gemuenden sim friedhof.htm]

The letters on the right side of the stone are still not clear enough to read.

Step two—change to a black and white image and sharpen



Black & White image of the headstone
[photo: http://alemannia-judaica.de/gemuenden sim friedhof.htm]

Unfortunately it is still not clear enough to read but it is a little better than the original full color image. I personally think that the inverse is a little clearer than either the color or the black and white. We will continue to investigate this and post results at a later date.

Saturday, August 13, 2011

We are the Americans

America is a land of immigrants and we are the product of that immigration movement. My mother’s mother was one half German and one half Norwegian. Her father was Norwegian. Her grandmother’s sister adopted her following the death of her mother. Her adopted foster parents were both Norwegians. My dad’s mother was Norwegian his father was Danish. My maiden name is the Danish version of what is usually considered a German name. That makes me 5/8 Norwegian, 1/8 German, and ¼ (2/8) Danish--or 100% American. Without a doubt people on the street see me as having Scandinavian ancestry by my height, fair complexion, bone structure and eyes all pointing to my heritage.

The first part of a family history book is finished and I am working on the second part but the problems associated with publishing and still preserving and protecting privacy issues of living people mentioned in the book(s) have delayed the manuscript printing. Hence the blog will focus on deceased persons only as far as family history goes. When the book is finally available I will post an announcement in the blog. Part I deals with the Lorig family because they were the first of our immigrant ancestors.